Failed Cesspool

Selling a Coram house with a failed cesspool

A cesspool tends to fail at the worst possible moment and announce itself in the most unpleasant way. Water backing up, a wet patch in the yard, a smell that will not go away, and then a quote that is a great deal larger than anyone was braced for.

We buy Coram houses with a failed cesspool. You do not repair it, replace it, pump it or have it inspected before we close.

Why a failed cesspool stops a Coram sale

The median house in Coram sold for $575,000 and took about 38 days to go under contract, then another 45 to 60 days waiting on the buyer's mortgage. That is 83 to 98 days in total, for a house that was ready to show on day one. That is the ordinary path, and a failed cesspool usually ends it early.

A retail buyer has no way to judge what a cesspool replacement involves, and the number they hear frightens them. The lender has its own view, because a house without working waste disposal is not something anyone wants to write a thirty-year mortgage against. So the inspection report lands, the cesspool is named in it, and the buyer either walks or asks for a credit large enough that you may as well have walked yourself.

Selling a house with a failed cesspool in Coram: back of a two story house with an outdoor oil tank
Selling a house with a failed cesspool in Coram? We buy houses as-is. Pictured: back of a two story house with an outdoor oil tank.

Where our experience with cesspools and septic helps you

A failed cesspool arrives as several problems at once: a house that cannot really be lived in, a contractor question, a county health department question, and a sale that just died. Most owners are in no position to run all four.

That is where we are genuinely useful. We know the contractors who do cesspool and septic work on Long Island without vanishing partway, we know which questions belong with the county health department rather than with a salesperson, and we buy the house with the system exactly as it stands.

Why local knowledge changes the number

A four-bedroom on Judith Drive. A three-bedroom on Winside Lane. An one-bedroom on Skyline Drive. All of them in Coram, all bought by us.

Coram is roughly 40,220 people in Suffolk County, ZIP 11727, and the housing stock is mostly hi-ranch, ranch, colonial. Around Route 112 and Middle Country Road, most of it is old enough that the mechanicals are on their second or third life. We know which of these streets take water, where the older systems fail first, and what the Longwood and Middle Country school district does to a resale price.

Replacing the cesspool first is usually the expensive order

There is a version of this where you borrow against the house, pay for a new system, and then find that the buyer who walked over the cesspool was not coming back and the next one wants something else fixed as well. We see it, and it is a hard thing to watch.

You do not have to repair the cesspool, pump it, inspect it or dig anything up to sell to us. The condition of the system is priced into the offer once, up front, and the offer does not move afterward.

What replacing a waste system actually involves

Rules around waste systems on Long Island have changed over the years and continue to, and what applies at your address depends on the lot, the location and what is already in the ground.

The county health department is the authority on what a replacement cesspool or septic system at your address has to be, and a sanitary contractor will know what that means in practice. There are sometimes programs that help with the cost, which is worth asking about while you have them on the phone. If you would rather not run that errand at all, sell the house with the cesspool as it is and it stops being yours.

How we arrive at a number on a house with a failed cesspool

On a house with a failed cesspool we start from the end: what it sells for once the work is done. From that we take away the cost of the work and a margin for the chance that we have misjudged either one. That is the whole method. Nothing is hidden in it.

  • What it is worth repaired. Not the Coram median of $575,000 on its own, but what houses like yours on your street actually closed at recently.
  • What the work costs. Roof, boiler, electric, the kitchen and bath. In Coram the stock is largely hi-ranch and ranch, and on houses that age the mechanicals are usually the expensive part rather than the cosmetics.
  • How long we will hold it. The median Coram house goes under contract in about 38 days once it is showable, then waits 45 to 60 days more on the buyer's lender. Ours has to get to showable first, and we carry taxes and insurance across the whole of it.
  • What we are wrong about. Walls and floors hide things until they come up. We price for that uncertainty, and it accounts for much of the distance between a cash offer and a retail price.

How we can pay this and still make it work

Most cash buyers skip this part. We do not. We run millions of dollars of construction a year, so we buy materials at contractor prices and keep our crews busy all year. The same renovation costs us roughly half of what you would be quoted as a homeowner.

That difference is how we make money. It is also why renovating before you sell seldom comes out ahead: you would pay retail for the roof and the boiler and then hope a buyer pays you back for them. Most of the time they do not. Our margin comes from building for less, not from buying from you for less.

If our number does not work for you, tell us. We would much rather hear it than push. We will go through your situation and give you a straight view of your options, including the ones that leave us out. A lot of people do better listing with an agent, and if you are one of them we will tell you now rather than have you find out later.

No lender, no repair conditions, no sign-off to wait on

A failed cesspool is a privacy problem too, which people rarely mention out loud. A listing means a sign on the lawn in Coram, strangers walking through on weekends, and a yard that is visibly torn up or visibly unusable.

There is none of that with us. One visit, a written number, a closing date you choose, and no explaining the cesspool to anybody on the street.

What you do not pay when you sell a house with a failed cesspool

These are the costs of putting a house with a failed cesspool on the market through an agent. None of them apply when you sell to us.

Agent commission
$28,750 at 5% of the Coram median
none
Seller closing costs
About $11,500 on a $575,000 sale. We can cover these.
none
Repairs to make it listable
The work it needs to show well, out of your pocket first
none
Cleanout and removal
Charged by the truckload, and done before the first showing
none
Carrying costs while it waits
Taxes, insurance and utilities while you spend 83 to 98 days finding a buyer and waiting for their loan
none

Telling us everything, and what you owe a buyer

We would rather hear the whole history of the cesspool at the start. The backups, the pump-outs, the company that came out twice, the quote sitting on the kitchen counter that you have been avoiding for a month.

None of that changes whether we buy a house with a failed cesspool in it. On the disclosure question, ask your attorney what New York requires of you rather than taking our word or anyone else's. We are buyers rather than lawyers, and this is one worth getting right.

Common questions

Do I have to fix the cesspool before you buy a Coram house?

Not at all. No repair, no replacement, no pump-out, no inspection. The condition of the cesspool is priced into the offer, and the offer does not move afterward.

What does a new cesspool or septic system cost?

It turns on the lot, the location and what the county health department requires at your address, so any cesspool figure quoted from a web page is a guess. A sanitary contractor who has walked the property will give you a real answer.

The cesspool backed up but the house is still livable. Is that a failure?

Sometimes a backup is a blockage and sometimes it is the cesspool reaching the end of its life, and telling those apart takes somebody who has opened it up. Either way we buy, and either way it is worth knowing which one you have.

A buyer walked away over the cesspool. Does that hurt my chances with you?

Not at all, and it is how a great many people arrive here. A retail buyer walking over a failed cesspool tells us something about that buyer, not about your house.

Do you buy houses on septic as well as cesspools?

Yes. A great deal of Suffolk County is on cesspools or septic rather than sewers, and we buy across all of it. Whatever is in your yard, it does not have to be working for us to buy the house.

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